Re: Drawing from Grim

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Posted by grim (206.162.192.40) on July 13, 2003 at 19:39:59:

In Reply to: Re: Drawing from Grim posted by Scott Ellis on July 10, 2003 at 16:41:48:

: Hi Grim,
: I didn't mean to imply that I think you're not being honest. I was just asking you to be careful with wording your claim. There have been quite a few posts on this board by people claiming to have come up with a design that turns (Terry comes to mind). But they always turn out to be people just being a little overly optimistic in their descriptions.

: The fact is that if your design turned even 1 time on its own(that is, if it was able to move through a cycle and then "reguage" itself for the next cycle), then it is a profoundly world altering invention that must be taken very seriously (whether or not was is able to last very long).

: Is that what you're claiming this device did? --Yes.

: If so, Smithy, do you back up this claim? see "Re:Information--Brett Smith"

: Thanks,
: Scott

:
: : : Here is the drawing Grim sent me. Thanks Grim!

: : : Now I want to be perfectly clear about this, Grim. Are you saying that this design turned by itself until the parts wore out? Please be honest with us.

: : : Thanks,
: : : Scott

: : :

: : :
: : : : The drawings you asked to see have been sent to Scott.

: : : : Smithy in Australia was able to reproduce this thing from these, by e-mail, so you shouldn't have much trouble.

: : : : Beware of flying parts. This is NOT the current design.

: : : : Regards

: : : : grim

: :
: : Hi Scott

: : It ran until the parts FLEW OFF, not WORE OUT. It BROKE ITSELF. Five to six turns to self-destruction.
: : VERY jerky movement, very violent. Why would I not be honest? I could've mentioned this
: : a long time ago, but I felt it to not be the "smooth startup" of JB's wheel, as I explained. It's an old
: : model dealing with what I tried to say the flaw in unbalanced wheels was, i.e., weights not lifted off the
: : bottom perimeter to make a wheel unstable.

: : The second-class lever formed by the lever arm and six-ounce weight was assisted by the "helper" spring to raise the weight off the bottom outside stop about 3/4".
: : Near the same time, the upper weight became unblocked from the inner stop and tried to "Tarzan" to the perimeter, with the leverage from the six-ounce weight and lever arm
: : driving it. The spring at that point slowed the weight's free swing and stored the energy it needed to become the "helper" spring at the bottom, assisting the weight/lever to pull
: : the large weight up off the bottom stop at the proper time.

: :
: : Regards

: :
: : grim

: : P.S. The drawing you posted was "Modifications", stop pins adjusted and springs lengthened for clearance.
: : Smithy in Australia reproduced it and got the same result- Self-Starting Destruction.

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Comments:	: : Hi Grim, : : I didn't mean to imply that I think you're not being honest. I was just asking you to be careful with wording your claim. There have been quite a few posts on this board by people claiming to have come up with a design that turns (Terry comes to mind). But they always turn out to be people just being a little overly optimistic in their descriptions. : : The fact is that if your design turned even 1 time on its own(that is, if it was able to move through a cycle and then "reguage" itself for the next cycle), then it is a profoundly world altering invention that must be taken very seriously (whether or not was is able to last very long). : : Is that what you're claiming this device did? --Yes. : : If so, Smithy, do you back up this claim? see "Re:Information--Brett Smith" : : Thanks, : : Scott : : : : : : : Here is the drawing Grim sent me. Thanks Grim! : : : : Now I want to be perfectly clear about this, Grim. Are you saying that this design turned by itself until the parts wore out? Please be honest with us. : : : : Thanks, : : : : Scott : : : : <img src="../images/grim/modifications_01.jpg" border=0> : : : : : : : : : The drawings you asked to see have been sent to Scott. : : : : : Smithy in Australia was able to reproduce this thing from these, by e-mail, so you shouldn't have much trouble. : : : : : Beware of flying parts. This is NOT the current design. : : : : : Regards : : : : : grim : : : : : : Hi Scott : : : It ran until the parts FLEW OFF, not WORE OUT. It BROKE ITSELF. Five to six turns to self-destruction. : : : VERY jerky movement, very violent. Why would I not be honest? I could've mentioned this : : : a long time ago, but I felt it to not be the "smooth startup" of JB's wheel, as I explained. It's an old : : : model dealing with what I tried to say the flaw in unbalanced wheels was, i.e., weights not lifted off the : : : bottom perimeter to make a wheel unstable. : : : The second-class lever formed by the lever arm and six-ounce weight was assisted by the "helper" spring to raise the weight off the bottom outside stop about 3/4". : : : Near the same time, the upper weight became unblocked from the inner stop and tried to "Tarzan" to the perimeter, with the leverage from the six-ounce weight and lever arm : : : driving it. The spring at that point slowed the weight's free swing and stored the energy it needed to become the "helper" spring at the bottom, assisting the weight/lever to pull : : : the large weight up off the bottom stop at the proper time. : : : : : : Regards : : : : : : grim : : : P.S. The drawing you posted was "Modifications", stop pins adjusted and springs lengthened for clearance. : : : Smithy in Australia reproduced it and got the same result- Self-Starting Destruction.
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